NHTSA Preliminary Evaluation: Inaccurate Rear Passenger Seat Belt Warning Status (PE25-017)
Opened October 28, 2025 · Honda (American Honda Motor Co.)
NHTSA opened a preliminary evaluation (PE25-017) on October 28, 2025 into inaccurate rear passenger seat belt warning status in 2023-2024 Honda Pilot. The investigation is open.
PE25-017 at a glance
| NHTSA action number | PE25-017 |
|---|---|
| Type | Preliminary Evaluation |
| Opened | October 28, 2025 |
| Status | Open |
| Vehicles | 2023-2024 Honda Pilot |
| Component | Seat Belts |
| Manufacturer | Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) |
| Resulting recall | None listed |
What is NHTSA investigating in the Honda Pilot?
From NHTSA’s investigation summary:
The Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) has received 6 complaints, and multiple Early Warning Reporting (EWR) field reports alleging inaccurate rear seat belt warning status.
These allegations concern both false positive and false negative statuses in model year (MY) 2023-2024 Honda Pilot vehicles manufactured by American Honda Motor Co. (Honda).
The complaints state that the rear passenger seat belt warning system is displaying inaccurate information to the driver for both second and third row seating positions.
This can lead to the driver dismissing warnings regarding rear seat belt status.
The inaccurate information can also cause the driver to believe rear occupants are buckled when they are not.
This reliance on false information presents concerns for the safety of children and child seats located in the rear rows, especially in the third row where the buckled status is more difficult for the driver to visually confirm.
ODI is opening this Preliminary Evaluation (PE) to determine the scope and severity of the potential problem and to fully assess the potential safety-related issues.
To review the ODI reports cited in the Opening Resume ODI Report Identification Number document, go to NHTSA.gov.
What is a preliminary evaluation?
Preliminary Evaluation is the first stage of a federal defect investigation. NHTSA reviews complaints, crash reports and manufacturer data to decide whether a safety defect may exist. It can close with no action, be upgraded to an engineering analysis, or end with a recall.
Did this investigation lead to a recall?
Not yet. The investigation is still open, and NHTSA has not listed a recall from it. Investigations can take months. If your vehicle already has the problem, document every dealer visit now.
Which vehicles are part of this investigation?
| Model years | Make | Model |
|---|---|---|
| 2023-2024 | Honda | Pilot |
What are Honda Pilot owners reporting to NHTSA?
NHTSA’s public database lists 258 owner complaints filed since 2020 for the vehicles in this investigation (all components). Complaints are unverified owner reports.
What should owners do?
- Check your VIN at nhtsa.gov/recalls for any open recall on your vehicle.
- If you have the problem NHTSA is investigating, take the vehicle to a dealer now and get a repair order, even if the dealer cannot find anything.
- Keep a log of every time the problem happens: date, mileage and what happened. Photos and videos help.
- File your own complaint at nhtsa.gov/report-a-safety-problem. Owner complaints are what start and expand investigations.
- If the problem keeps coming back, talk to a lemon law attorney.
Recalls on the same vehicles
- 2026 Honda Pilot Rear Suspension Recall (26V424)
- 2021-2022 Honda Pilot Rear Suspension Recall (26V365)
- 2021, 2023 Acura TLX Passenger Air Bag Recall (26V332)
- 2023 Honda Accord Seat Fastener Recall (26V054)
- 2021-2025 Acura TLX Brake Pedal Recall (25V391)
- 2025 Honda Pilot Rear Seat Belt Recall (25V056)
- 2023-2025 Honda Pilot Electrical Software Recall (25V031)
- 2023-2024 Honda Passport Filler Pipe and Cap Recall (24V900)
- 2023-2024 Honda Accord Seat Fastener Recall (24V859)
- 2021-2022 Honda Pilot Passenger Air Bag Recall (24V064)
Can a recall or defect investigation make my car a lemon in California?
Not by itself. What matters is whether a covered defect keeps coming back or keeps your vehicle at the dealer, and a federal investigation or recall is strong evidence that the problem is real.
Under California’s Song-Beverly Consumer Warranty Act, a manufacturer that cannot fix a warranty defect that substantially impairs a vehicle’s use, value or safety within a reasonable number of attempts may have to repurchase or replace it (Civ. Code 1793.2(d)). Within the first 18 months or 18,000 miles, the law presumes a reasonable number of attempts after two repairs of a defect likely to cause death or serious injury, four repairs of the same defect, or more than 30 days out of service (Civ. Code 1793.22(b)).
An owner who prevails can recover reasonable attorney fees and costs from the manufacturer (Civ. Code 1794(d)). You pay nothing, win or lose. We are paid only if you win, and the manufacturer pays our fees, including in settlements. If a case is lost, our firm covers the costs.
In our cases, a recall repair visit counts as a repair attempt, and it's strongest when the owner complained about the problem before the recall came out. A recall shows the defect is real and that enough owners reported it for the manufacturer to issue a fix.
The biggest mistake I see is waiting too long. The mileage offset starts at your first repair visit for the problem, so the sooner you take it in, the better. If the problem comes and goes, take it in when it happens. You can't go back to that date later.
If you get a recall notice, call a lemon law attorney right away. You may have taken the car in for the same problem before and forgotten, or there may be other recalls related to it.
Jacob Shayesteh, Esq. (SBN 362320), Founder and Managing Attorney. Quotes lightly edited for clarity. Prior results do not guarantee a similar outcome.
Frequently asked questions
Does the recall fixing my car mean I have no case?
Not necessarily. Even if the recall repair fixed it, you may still have a case, and a car that's a year or more old can still qualify.
Do used cars qualify for California lemon law?
We take certified pre-owned, demo and dealer vehicles. Since the California Supreme Court's Rodriguez decision in 2024, ordinary used cars generally do not qualify.
How long does a recall lemon law case take?
Recall-related cases typically resolve in one to three months from your first call. Prior results do not guarantee a similar outcome.
What does a lemon law attorney cost?
You pay nothing, win or lose. We are paid only if you win, and the manufacturer pays our fees, including in settlements. If a case is lost, our firm covers the costs.
Sources
- NHTSA investigation, recall and complaint data, accessed October 7, 2026
- California Civil Code 1793.22
Jacob Shayesteh, Esq., Founder and Managing Attorney of America’s Lemon Lawyer (Wynn Law Group, APC). Licensed by the State Bar of California, No. 362320. His practice focuses on California lemon law under the Song-Beverly Consumer Warranty Act.
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